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Historical analysis of the Bible vs the Qur'an (2002)

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NEW TESTAMENT CANON: written prior to Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD and before fire of Rome, as these events plus martyrdoms of James(62 AD), Paul (64 AD) and Peter (65 AD), all pivotal Christian events, not mentioned in Acts
  • Rule of thumb: the more MSS the more credible the document,
  • that which is closest to the event is most authoritative
  • 5,300 Greek, 10,000 Latin Vulgate, 9,300 other early versions
  • 24,000 copies of portions of the New Testament in existence today!
  • 230 MSS compiled before 7th century (i.e. before the Qur'an)!!
Secular and Biblical Manuscript Comparisons:
 Date WrittenEarliest Copy
Secular Manuscripts:
Herodotus (History) 480 - 425 BC 900 AD
Thucydides (History) 460 - 400 BC 900 AD
Aristotle (Philosopher) 384 - 322 BC 1,100 AD
Caesar (History) 100 - 44 BC 900 AD
Pliny (History) 61 - 113 AD 850 AD
Suetonius (Rom. History) 70 - 140 AD 950 AD
Tacitus (Greek History) 100 AD 1,100 AD
Biblical Manuscripts:
Magdalene Ms (Matt. 26)1st century 50-60 AD*
John Rylands (John) 90 AD 130 AD
Bodmer Papyrus II (John) 90 AD 150-200 AD
Chester Beatty Papyri (NT) 1st century 200 AD
Diatessaron by Tatian (Gospels) 1st century 200 AD
Codex Vaticanus (Bible) 1st century 325-350 AD
Codex Sinaiticus (Bible) 1st century 350 AD
Codex Alexandrinus (Bible) 1st century 400 AD
-Magdalene Manuscript (*Dr.Thiede) = 50-68 AD?
(KE = Kurios = Lord) oldest of 98 Papyri

Luke 1:1-3 (disciples), Acts 2:22 (Jews), Acts 26:24-26 (Secularists)
Thallus, Tacitus, Josephus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger
15,000 TRANSLATIONS: (150AD - 6th cent) Latin, Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, Gothic, Nubian, Georgian, Ethiopic
2,135 LECTIONARIES: from 6th century
-86,489 Biblical quotes; (32,000 before 325AD) all the New Testament quoted except for 11 verses, Clement = 2,406 quotes, Tertullian = 7,258 quotes, Origen = 17,922 quotes

SIRA, HADITH, TARIKH, TAFSIR PROBLEMS: Late dates: Sira (Hisham = 833AD), Hadith (Buhari = 870AD), Tarikh, Tafsir (Tabari = 923AD)
Credibility: reflect 9th-10th c. bias based on ra'y (opinion), conflicting akhbars
Contradictions: Al-Tabari's conflicting accounts (i.e. 15 dif. accnt of Muh. mtng)
Proliferation: Waqidi & Abdallah; Bukhari=600,000 to 7,397 (2,762 originals)
Isnad: transmitters names, begins w/Sha'fi (820AD) yet no documentation till 9thc.
Storytelling: Kussas related stories of Biblical & Iranian legend, like Griots today
  • Oral tradition = embellishment (i.e. griots), mss. aged, disintegrated - did mss. exist?
  • Why no 7th century MSS for Qur'an or traditions extent today?
(claim = 650AD) not Topkapi / Sammarkand
must do Accelerated Mass Spectrography (AMS) analysis and SCRIPT Analysis SCRIPTS:
    1. Hijazi/Ma'il 7th-9th century (Medina and Mecca).
    2. Mashq- 7th century onwards.
    3. Abbasid/E.Kufic 8th-11th century (needs landscape format)
    4. Naskh 11th century till today.
Mashq/Hijazi = from 697AD - 750AD, thus Umayyad
Kufic = 750AD onwards, same as MSS, thus Abbasid!
Topkapi: parchment-medallions-18lines-formal-uniform-Abbasid script-justification
Sammarkand: 42Suras(S.2:7-43:10)-100 text variants-8-12lines haphazard- col. medallions-unbalanced- Abbasid script-both Topkapi/Sammarkand = 9thc. BL2165: 8th c.-vellum-portrait-23-26 lines-Hijazi/Ma'il script-(S.7:40-43:71) San'a 01-28.1: Puin:
Oldest parchments & papers of Qur'anic Ms.@ ambiguous letters - different numeration, sura arrangements found (i.e. sura 19-22...26-37-36-38...67-71-72-51-Many deviations not mentioned in later literature.
Difference is even meaningful in a theological sense@ Sometimes Abraham (S.2), sometimes Ibrahim, 'Qalu' 50% with alif b/w Qaf-Lam, 'Qalu' to 'Qul'
Conclusion: no Uthmanic recension, & Qur'an=1, 200 yrs old, not 1400=150 yr gap!

SOURCES: Gunther Luling: Poetry = pre-Islamic Christ. Syriac hymns w/Arab themes
John Wansbrough: Pattern of the text=later editing. Compiled 8th- 9th century
Karl-Heinz Ohlig: Qur'an compiled late 7th c., other versions up to 9th century
-No O.T. prophets & Pauline literature. Thus added sectarian traditions: Nestorian: Jesus was a God-chosen human (sura 3:42-48, 51, 59; 4:171; 5:116-117; 19:30, 34-35), Monarchianism: God has no children (sura 4:171; 19:34) Docetism: Jesus didn't die (sura 4:156-158), Monophysites & Maryolatry: Mary in Trinity (sura 5:116). So Qur'an not Uthmanic but East. Syria = Mesopotamia

TALMUDIC SOURCES: Cain/Abel: (raven) S.5:31=Targum Jonathan-ben-Uzziah,S.5:32=Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5
Abraham: (smashed idols, fiery pit) (S.21:51-71) = Midrash Rabbah
Solomon & Sheba: (hoopoo bird, mirrored floor) (S.27:17-44) =II Targum of Esther
Mary-Imran-Zachariah Sura 3:35-37 = Proto-evangelion's James the Lesser
Jesus' birth:- Palm Tree- S.19:22-26=The Lost Books of the Bible=apocryphal fable
Baby Jesus talking - S.19:29-33 = The 1st Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ
Creating birds from clay - S.3:49 = Thomas' Gospel of Infancy of Jesus Christ.

  • Abu bakr (632-634 AD) with 1st compilation (vol.6:509-510)
  • Uthman (644-656 AD) revised Hafsa Ms, burns others (vols.4&6:510)
  • Verses canceled (5:416) or now missing (Rajam = stoning S.24:2) (vol.8:817)
Imam Malik
- Some verses have been changed
Sahih Muslim - Parts of the Qur'an has been forgotten
Ibn Dawud - Verses were lost, overlooked and modified
As-Suyuti - Much of Qur'an has disappeared

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